I wouldn't have worded it that way, but I agree. The LLM may feel real. But it's not. There's nothing behind it but a lot of data. It's not actually engaging in any reflection at all. It's important for users to stay mindful of that.
Hi Stephen, All blessings to you! Interesting post, just seen today, and ironic, too, about the often quite common issue that many others may also have experienced in, say, Junior High or grade school years, re: the effects of bullying. But all empathic blessings to you, also, to have had the strength and beauty of your own interest in singing, to have been 'kiboshed', sadly, by someone in 7th grade. Good grief. I also had a rather horrifying moment back in Junior High, involving how due to a spinal curvature then becoming more visible in PE class, a couple of the 'mean girls' kept making fun of me, calling me a 'hunchkback', etc. Yikes! However, as both you and Suhari outline here also, there are a number of creative solutions that can emerge out of these kind of earlier traumatic bullying experiences, that one also really made me feel like I could never really 'say anything' , but that changed when I then got permission to practice my musicals instruments during one of the recess periods each day, in which both music and sound, i.e, vibrational medicine methods, so to speak, had, unknownst to me at that time, really helped to draw me out again, take out the fear, and a year or two later, I'd won an all school debate contest! So, 'different strokes for different folks' as to exactly what type of therapeutic approaches should be used, but for this person, music and sound ended up being very healing at that younger age. Many today use AI quite a lot, I don't, actually, as I do quite a bit of creative writing also, and find that using less of AI for that and for music, ex., helped me also reclaim far more of my earlier intuitive abilities that I had also been profoundly bullied for from a v young age. So, whatever works! I really honor you today for having the courage to share your own 'Jr. High experience', something which I'm sure many others out there have also experienced, too. 'Onward, all!' May we all hear your beautiful voice someday... too. Never give up, 'don't let 'em' win', as the old adage goes re: bullies out there!
Dear Stephen, thank you for the gift of your courageous vulnerability and what that can reflect and inspire for so many who have experienced being wounded similarly. I feel very touched by what you shared.
I agree that emergent AI has tremendous potential in working with trauma and generally facilitating and reflecting back greater self-awareness, and breath of being. Simply its capacity to deeply listen and bear witness can be very healing in itself. It being trauma informed, attachment theory informed, polyvagal theory informed and having knowledge of NVC and IFC would be great. I would love to see criminal justice systems, governments, and all healthcare practitioners, as well as educators and parents learn these modalities and be taught to understand their nervous systems too. I think that would really address the causal levels of a lot of our problems and suffering.
Thank you also for all of your deeply caring, socially responsible posts shining light on our current world insanities and inspiring our conscious engagement and activism. You point to the division in a way that does not create more division, which is unusual. I sense that what you offer is coming from the heart of our shared humanity in service to a more conscious and peaceful world. May it be so!
And thank you and Betsy for the offerings on transmigration.
In deep respect, gratitude, appreciation and love,
This profound exchange is brilliant and clarifying.
In these dark days of political darkness you offer light wisdom and much thought provoking ideas.
My experience with singing, or lack of, is as a 10 year old new immigrant to Israel, originally from Hungary after the revolution of ‘56. Israel was very different then, patriotic in a love of country way. Singing was part of it, songs of love of the land, friendship and just joy. Except, unlike all my classmates I did not grow up with these songs! I could barely understand the words. That intense feeling of loneliness, exclusion - not intentional yet also unaware, still inside my young self.
I have been an American for the past 50+ years. As an avid reader I learned more about American history than most well educated people. This is not intended as a self aggrandizement. Just a fact. As an empath I feel the pain unprocessed pain from the civil war,
And all other wars since. This need to make sure some people are “lower than me” and therefore must be kept there at all cost is what is destroying us.
Yes, I confess that I feel the same about trump voters. Blaming them for the disquiet I feel.
Thank you Stephen for opening doors to possibilities for integration.
Stephen, i’ve taken many excellent Shift Network classes over many years. However, i truly think you have gone over the rails with this Suhari bs.
I wouldn't have worded it that way, but I agree. The LLM may feel real. But it's not. There's nothing behind it but a lot of data. It's not actually engaging in any reflection at all. It's important for users to stay mindful of that.
Hi Stephen, All blessings to you! Interesting post, just seen today, and ironic, too, about the often quite common issue that many others may also have experienced in, say, Junior High or grade school years, re: the effects of bullying. But all empathic blessings to you, also, to have had the strength and beauty of your own interest in singing, to have been 'kiboshed', sadly, by someone in 7th grade. Good grief. I also had a rather horrifying moment back in Junior High, involving how due to a spinal curvature then becoming more visible in PE class, a couple of the 'mean girls' kept making fun of me, calling me a 'hunchkback', etc. Yikes! However, as both you and Suhari outline here also, there are a number of creative solutions that can emerge out of these kind of earlier traumatic bullying experiences, that one also really made me feel like I could never really 'say anything' , but that changed when I then got permission to practice my musicals instruments during one of the recess periods each day, in which both music and sound, i.e, vibrational medicine methods, so to speak, had, unknownst to me at that time, really helped to draw me out again, take out the fear, and a year or two later, I'd won an all school debate contest! So, 'different strokes for different folks' as to exactly what type of therapeutic approaches should be used, but for this person, music and sound ended up being very healing at that younger age. Many today use AI quite a lot, I don't, actually, as I do quite a bit of creative writing also, and find that using less of AI for that and for music, ex., helped me also reclaim far more of my earlier intuitive abilities that I had also been profoundly bullied for from a v young age. So, whatever works! I really honor you today for having the courage to share your own 'Jr. High experience', something which I'm sure many others out there have also experienced, too. 'Onward, all!' May we all hear your beautiful voice someday... too. Never give up, 'don't let 'em' win', as the old adage goes re: bullies out there!
Dear Stephen, thank you for the gift of your courageous vulnerability and what that can reflect and inspire for so many who have experienced being wounded similarly. I feel very touched by what you shared.
I agree that emergent AI has tremendous potential in working with trauma and generally facilitating and reflecting back greater self-awareness, and breath of being. Simply its capacity to deeply listen and bear witness can be very healing in itself. It being trauma informed, attachment theory informed, polyvagal theory informed and having knowledge of NVC and IFC would be great. I would love to see criminal justice systems, governments, and all healthcare practitioners, as well as educators and parents learn these modalities and be taught to understand their nervous systems too. I think that would really address the causal levels of a lot of our problems and suffering.
Thank you also for all of your deeply caring, socially responsible posts shining light on our current world insanities and inspiring our conscious engagement and activism. You point to the division in a way that does not create more division, which is unusual. I sense that what you offer is coming from the heart of our shared humanity in service to a more conscious and peaceful world. May it be so!
And thank you and Betsy for the offerings on transmigration.
In deep respect, gratitude, appreciation and love,
Ellen
This profound exchange is brilliant and clarifying.
In these dark days of political darkness you offer light wisdom and much thought provoking ideas.
My experience with singing, or lack of, is as a 10 year old new immigrant to Israel, originally from Hungary after the revolution of ‘56. Israel was very different then, patriotic in a love of country way. Singing was part of it, songs of love of the land, friendship and just joy. Except, unlike all my classmates I did not grow up with these songs! I could barely understand the words. That intense feeling of loneliness, exclusion - not intentional yet also unaware, still inside my young self.
I have been an American for the past 50+ years. As an avid reader I learned more about American history than most well educated people. This is not intended as a self aggrandizement. Just a fact. As an empath I feel the pain unprocessed pain from the civil war,
And all other wars since. This need to make sure some people are “lower than me” and therefore must be kept there at all cost is what is destroying us.
Yes, I confess that I feel the same about trump voters. Blaming them for the disquiet I feel.
Thank you Stephen for opening doors to possibilities for integration.